Answer to Job: (from Vol. 11 of the Collected Works of C. G. Jung)

Answer to Job: (from Vol. 11 of the Collected Works of C. G. Jung)

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Considered one of Jung's most controversial works, Answer to Job also stands as Jung's most extensive commentary on a biblical text。 Here, he confronts the story of the man who challenged God, the man who experienced hell on earth and still did not reject his faith。 Job's journey parallels Jung's own experience--as reported in The Red Book: Liber Novus--of descending into the depths of his own unconscious, confronting and reconciling the rejected aspects of his soul。



This paperback edition of Jung's classic work includes a new foreword by Sonu Shamdasani, Philemon Professor of Jung History at University College London。 Described by Shamdasani as the theology behind The Red BookAnswer to Job examines the symbolic role that theological concepts play in an individual's psychic life。

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Sarah Koz

BEER AND SKITTLES!!!

Ben Askin

As previous reviewers have discussed, similar to Kierkegaard meditation on Abraham。 Interesting idea。 The nobility and moral high ground of Job。 God being tricked by the devil, and allowing him to exist。 God’s desire to become man。

Chungsoo Lee

God on Jung’s psychoanalysis coachThis book contains Jung’s comprehensive statement on Christianity as a whole。 it goes into God of the Old Testament and the New, the angry Yahweh, the God of love, and then the God of vengeance and destruction (in the Book of Revelation)。 But his reading of Job, Enoch, Revelation is groundbreaking in that they are seen in light of other ancient mythologies/archetypes。 The central thesis is that in the battle between God and Job, God lost。 He suffers “the moral i God on Jung’s psychoanalysis coachThis book contains Jung’s comprehensive statement on Christianity as a whole。 it goes into God of the Old Testament and the New, the angry Yahweh, the God of love, and then the God of vengeance and destruction (in the Book of Revelation)。 But his reading of Job, Enoch, Revelation is groundbreaking in that they are seen in light of other ancient mythologies/archetypes。 The central thesis is that in the battle between God and Job, God lost。 He suffers “the moral injury” as his vehement and mighty power of creation is put to shame by Job’s righteousness and faithfulness: that he did not succumb to Satan’s wedged。 God depended on man to prove his omniscience in his wedges against Satan。 In this process, God discovers his consciousness and wants to become a man like Job and later he did become a man in Jesus Christ。 The subject of Jung’s analysis in the Book off Job is not Job but God the Yahweh who is awaked to consciousness by Job's dignity and righteousness。 Awakened from the nightmare of his unconsciousness, God takes on the consciousness of the ideal man。 However, the sequence of destruction and rebirth is repeated in the Book of Revelation, as if God had learnt nothing from Job。 There is no progress in Hegelian sense。 Only the tension between the two opposites held together in symbolism, where the unconsciousness pokes into the consciousness, where the unfathomable is mediated and expressed in consciousness in symbolism, ritual, and tradition。 Thus symbolism holds the opposites together: the good and evil, the light and darkness, destruction and regeneration。 This is how we cope with reality which is fundamentally at war with itself, irreconcilable and ineffable。 Jung goes into depth into the symbolism of the Cross。 His criticism of atonement is rather similar to Nietzsche’s。 He asks: What kind of father is he who is appeased by murdering his own son? The cross is the symbol of good and evil: the robber on one side who is accepted to the paradise and the other who is condemned to hell。 The Cross is both curse and salvation, cruelty and love held together in one symbolism。 John who preaches love, according to Jung, also wrote the most vehement book of destruction, almost predicting the fate of civilization in Jung’s time as well as ours。 Man’s collective unconscious destructive impulse must be balanced and ameliorated by symbols and mythologies in order for it to enter our consciousness。 Beyond the symbolism of dreams, visions, archetypes, myths, we cannot move further。 The Thing-in-Itself is meaningless unless it manifests itself through symbols。 What is a Christian response? In wanting to be a god of love do we not become a god of destruction and vengeance? We have ample evidence of that in history。 But what if the ultimate reality is not duality but one: the good and the beautiful, as Plato put it。 In this reality, who we are ultimately is the one who gives, like God the Father, like Christ the son--a pure gift。 The myth of the sacrificial Lamb (and with all that blood) must therefore be replaced by the ritual of gift offering at the altar。 For in our vigilance we give, after being awaked from the nightmare of the unconsciousness。 The unconsciousness is just that: a nightmare。 We thus do not accept Heraclitus' dictum that war is father of all things。 For there were alters before wars, as Levinas observes。 Even for Cain, there was the offering at the altar before the murder in the plane field。 。。。more

Alfredo Torres

Creo que se tiene que estar en medio de los dos lados cuando se lee este tipo de libros。 Si uno lee estos libros de un lado religioso quizá se sienta ofendido o un poco atacado hacia sus creencias, en caso contrario, sentirá que lo que está leyendo son meros disparates de un tema que no viene al caso。 Hay que estar dispuesto a aceptar información o nuevas lecturas con una mente serena y abierta。 El libro me gustó, me da una visión un tanto distinta del Dios del antiguo testamento y las quizá pro Creo que se tiene que estar en medio de los dos lados cuando se lee este tipo de libros。 Si uno lee estos libros de un lado religioso quizá se sienta ofendido o un poco atacado hacia sus creencias, en caso contrario, sentirá que lo que está leyendo son meros disparates de un tema que no viene al caso。 Hay que estar dispuesto a aceptar información o nuevas lecturas con una mente serena y abierta。 El libro me gustó, me da una visión un tanto distinta del Dios del antiguo testamento y las quizá probables razones de sus decisiones。 Hay que tener un poco de conocimiento respecto a las historias de la biblia y buscar muchas definiciones, sobre todo en latín y en griego me parece。 Creo que esa sería uno de los problemas con el libro, aunque creo yo que con un poco conocimiento respecto a los personajes basta。 El otro asunto es que ya casi en los últimos capítulos siento que se fue algo lejos del tema principal del título del libro; mientras que la respuesta a Job responde en los primeros capítulos, el resto es toma ya otros temas y ahonda en ellos。 Pero fuera de eso me gustó el libro ¿Lo recomendaría? Sí, pero a los verdaderamente interesados en estos temas。 。。。more

Víctor Sampayo

Varios días ya desde que terminé este libro y aún sigo deslumbrado por esa especie de mapeo psicológico que emprende Jung con la psique de Dios a partir de su relación con la humanidad, o al menos de la relación que se colige en los textos más importantes de La Biblia en cuanto a su construcción simbólico-arquetipica: su extraña y contradictoria esencia, en la que caben el bien y el mal, el amor y la cólera, la crueldad, la sabiduría, la injusticia, la creación y la destrucción, pero todo sin un Varios días ya desde que terminé este libro y aún sigo deslumbrado por esa especie de mapeo psicológico que emprende Jung con la psique de Dios a partir de su relación con la humanidad, o al menos de la relación que se colige en los textos más importantes de La Biblia en cuanto a su construcción simbólico-arquetipica: su extraña y contradictoria esencia, en la que caben el bien y el mal, el amor y la cólera, la crueldad, la sabiduría, la injusticia, la creación y la destrucción, pero todo sin una lectura que pudiéramos llamar "moral", sino más bien como si Dios fuera una especie de fenómeno de la naturaleza, o quizás mejor: la esencia misma de la naturaleza。 Según Jung, mediante su relación con el hombre (su criatura), Dios va experimentando una suerte de evolución de sí mismo, en particular luego del episodio con Job, quien, según Jung, muestra una superioridad moral con respecto a Dios, por lo que la encarnación de Jesús sería la respuesta a esa injusticia cometida contra el hombre。 Sin embargo, lejos de pensar en que el nacimiento del Hijo de Dios es un hecho único en la historia del mundo, mediante el análisis de los libros postreros de La Biblia, Jung pone sobre la mesa la posibilidad de que la encarnación de Dios entre la humanidad apenas haya tenido su inicio en Jesús, y que quizás es un proceso que ha continuado desde entonces, incluidas la Asunción de María y sus posteriores «apariciones», en las que ve, acaso proféticamente (recordemos que este libro apareció por primera vez en 1952), una señal de la necesaria vindicación del papel de la mujer dentro de la humanidad en las décadas por venir。。。 。。。more

Nikola Nesic

Hard book, makes sense only if you have read the Bible and other Jung's works Hard book, makes sense only if you have read the Bible and other Jung's works 。。。more

Julia Kim

re-establishes the complete (light and dark) portrayal of god, critical for those raised catholic under a 'bleached' version of the christian god; second half of the book especially difficult to read if you're not familiar with the books of the bible re-establishes the complete (light and dark) portrayal of god, critical for those raised catholic under a 'bleached' version of the christian god; second half of the book especially difficult to read if you're not familiar with the books of the bible 。。。more

Alexandru

Probably the most difficult Jung book to read and understand as it delves deep into the psychology, mythology and theology of the Book of Job and a few other parts of the Bible。

Edna Nová

Uf。。 Nebylo to jednoduché čtení, což jsem ani nepředpokládala。 Docela by mě zajímalo, co by na knihu řekl teolog, ale pravděpodobně by jen pokrčil rameny。Jung “medituje” nad Bohem, jeho rozpory。 Postupuje od Jóba, kterému dává zásadní význam, až po Zjevení Janovo v Novém zákoně。 Sděluje svůj názor na poslední dogma o Marii。Časem bych si knihu mohla přečíst znova。 Po dlouhé době něco s tématem SZ a NZ。

Alfredo

El libro, aunque fascinante, es muy compicado por su profundidad en temas teológicos y psicológicos。 El amplio conocimiento de Jung vuelve la lectura ardua y casi inaccesible a los neófitos。 Con referencias teológicas extensas, tanto de las sagradas escrituras cristianas, cómo de las filosofías orientales, y citas en latín o en griego carentes de pie de página, se trata de un libro difícil。 Sus explicaciones sobre simbología arquetípica, moral y psicología dentro de las creencias religiosas, pri El libro, aunque fascinante, es muy compicado por su profundidad en temas teológicos y psicológicos。 El amplio conocimiento de Jung vuelve la lectura ardua y casi inaccesible a los neófitos。 Con referencias teológicas extensas, tanto de las sagradas escrituras cristianas, cómo de las filosofías orientales, y citas en latín o en griego carentes de pie de página, se trata de un libro difícil。 Sus explicaciones sobre simbología arquetípica, moral y psicología dentro de las creencias religiosas, principalmente el culto a Yavé y a Jesucristo, son fenomenales。 Habrá que estudiar religiones comparadas, psicología, latín y griego antes de leerlo otra vez。 Sin duda un libro para ser revisitado y estudiado a profundidad。 De momento tres estrellas porque, si bien me fue, le entendí a la mitad。 。。。more

Anthony Leacock

This is one of the most interesting analyses of a biblical story that I have ever read--Jung tries to understand God and Job in light of an unconscious, drawing both on the literature and of the supposed mental states of its writers。 I still remember a great deal of what he said in this book: some very powerful analyses indeed。 I am not a Jungian by any stretch of the mark, and even if you are like me I'd recommend reading this book five times over。 It is not a long read, but it is dense with an This is one of the most interesting analyses of a biblical story that I have ever read--Jung tries to understand God and Job in light of an unconscious, drawing both on the literature and of the supposed mental states of its writers。 I still remember a great deal of what he said in this book: some very powerful analyses indeed。 I am not a Jungian by any stretch of the mark, and even if you are like me I'd recommend reading this book five times over。 It is not a long read, but it is dense with an intriguing theoretical analysis and a challenge to traditional Christian narratives about the bible。 This sort of reflection is very insightful and, I think, inspires knowledge about ourselves。 By far the best thing Jung ever wrote。 。。。more

Lauren

As is usual with Jung’s works, you begin in one place and end up in another place, a bit confused as to how you got there。 Jung starts off with a psychical explanation of the Book of Job - Job, as a man, is morally better than God who despite being omniscient does not want to admit to Himself that He cannot or will not see His own darkness。 Taking winding roads that feel a bit like free-association, Jung ends up exploring Revelation which leads him to some rather remarkable speculations。 I think As is usual with Jung’s works, you begin in one place and end up in another place, a bit confused as to how you got there。 Jung starts off with a psychical explanation of the Book of Job - Job, as a man, is morally better than God who despite being omniscient does not want to admit to Himself that He cannot or will not see His own darkness。 Taking winding roads that feel a bit like free-association, Jung ends up exploring Revelation which leads him to some rather remarkable speculations。 I think I would have been completely lost if I hadn’t already read Jung’s Aion。 Someone else recommended Kierkegaard as suggested preliminary reading - it can’t hurt。 Aleister Crowley also strikes me as extremely relevant。 。。。more

yo JP

Jung je gangster。 Osobně si ty jeho diktáty užívám。 Je to jako kdyby nakráčel do budovy, přistoupil k nejvyššímu představenému arcidiecéze a dal mu čelo。 A zatímco se dotyčný svíjí na zemi v krvi, Jung vysvětluje proč formou rap songu。 Jeho samotný postoj "z pozice laika", jak říká, ale staví křesťanství, myšlenku Boha, pod neuvěřitelný zatěžkávací test, protože Jungova inteligence vskutku je až děsivá。 Svým způsobem si myslím, že tahle kniha dobře zhodnocuje křesťanský dogmatismus a slepé přijí Jung je gangster。 Osobně si ty jeho diktáty užívám。 Je to jako kdyby nakráčel do budovy, přistoupil k nejvyššímu představenému arcidiecéze a dal mu čelo。 A zatímco se dotyčný svíjí na zemi v krvi, Jung vysvětluje proč formou rap songu。 Jeho samotný postoj "z pozice laika", jak říká, ale staví křesťanství, myšlenku Boha, pod neuvěřitelný zatěžkávací test, protože Jungova inteligence vskutku je až děsivá。 Svým způsobem si myslím, že tahle kniha dobře zhodnocuje křesťanský dogmatismus a slepé přijímání myšlenek (což je to, co mě od víry s jinak sympatickými základy a morálkou vždy odrazovalo)。 Jungovo "kritického myšlení tázajícího se člověka" vyžaduje vaše plné soustředění a trpělivost a zaujetí pro to, co čtete。。。 je to sice obtížné ale zároveň sdostatek srozumitelné a přístupné。 A ještě jedna věc: než se pustíte do téhle publikace, doporučil bych si přečíst Knihu Jóbovu a Zjevení Janovo。 。。。more

Peter Mathews

Jung's short book focuses on a crisis that arises in the Book of Job。 In the encounter between God and Job, God behaves like a tyrannical monster, to the point where Job, despite his humanity, inhabits a place of moral superior to his creator。 In short, God diminishes himself by his unreflective and cruel mindset。Jung examines the implications of this event, noting how, after Job, there is an implicit shift, a movement of the divine toward the human in an attempt to discover where God went wrong Jung's short book focuses on a crisis that arises in the Book of Job。 In the encounter between God and Job, God behaves like a tyrannical monster, to the point where Job, despite his humanity, inhabits a place of moral superior to his creator。 In short, God diminishes himself by his unreflective and cruel mindset。Jung examines the implications of this event, noting how, after Job, there is an implicit shift, a movement of the divine toward the human in an attempt to discover where God went wrong。 This move is particularly notable, argues Jung, in the figures of Ezekiel and Enoch, who are both dubbed "Sons of Men" in anticipation of the divine incarnation of Christ。The early parts of the book speculate as to how God's monstrosity came about in the first place, with Jung arguing that Yahweh had suppressed his feminine cohort, Sophia, allowing the worst parts of his character to come to the fore。 The argument is repeated using the example of Cain and Abel。Not everything about Answer to Job is insightful, his identification of a central conflict in the very character of the divine being is compelling throughout。 For instance, God claims to be just and honorable, and yet he mistreats his faithful servant Job。 Or this pertinent example from the Book of Revelation:"Laodicea he will spew out of his mouth, because they are lukewarm。 They too must repent。 His explanation is characteristic: “Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten。” It would be quite understandable if the Laodiceans did not want too much of this “love。”" (p。 74)。Jung is great in this book at pointing out these paradoxes, which so many other readers of the Bible pass over without a second thought。 Consider, for example, the opening line of the Lord's Prayer, in which Christ asks his Father not to lead his followers into temptation。 "Christ considers it appropriate to remind his father of his destructive inclinations towards mankind and to beg him to desist from them。" (p。 49)。 Despite claiming to be a just and loving God, he has a long history of persecuting and destroying the humanity he created, especially those he purports to love。For Jung, then, the Answer to Job is the beginning of a moral crisis for God, one that will eventually be mediated through Christ, but that even then will continue to show glimpses of his cruel side, all the way up to the "veritable orgy of hatred, wrath, vindictiveness, and blind destructive fury" (p。 76) that characterizes the Book of Revelation。Answer to Job is a valuable book, therefore, not because Jung is right (he rarely is), but because it gives us a glimpse of a deity that has been repeatedly sanitized and whitewashed by his followers。 Yet that is not what the Bible shows: from Genesis to Revelations, with stops by Job and Christ along the way, we see that "God is not only to be loved, but also to be feared。 He fills us with evil as well as with good, otherwise he would not need to be feared" (p。 99)。 No wonder that so many have finally realized how poisonous such love really is。A Nietzschean Post-Script:"One should not imagine it grew up as the denial of that thirst for revenge, as the opposite of Jewish hatred! No, the reverse is true! That love grew out of it as its crown, as its triumphant crown spreading itself farther and farther into the purest brightness and sunlight, driven as it were into the domain of light and the heights in pursuit of the goals of that hatred—victory, spoil, and seduction—by the same impulse that drove the roots of that hatred deeper and deeper and more and more covetously into all that was profound and evil。" (Friedrich Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals) 。。。more

Shaun Phelps

Jung, a self-identified layman of theology explores the book of Job, the conflict of God and man--the conscious and subconscious。 This book is a swirling vortex of insight and analysis that promises an answer to Job at the outset and delivers an answer to everything by the end。

Mary Sue Ulven

Amazing。 Challenging。 Mind-blowing。

Abhishek Prasad

It was a short read。 Kinda liked it。Won't recommend it to anyone with an agnostic/atheistic view of life, as it would leave you with a sense of why you became like that in the first place, nothing more to add to that。Didn't get much out of this book really, I wouldn't have, as I am not that much of a believer myself。 I was associating with Job when all he wanted was just answers。 But when God entered the chat, I just peace-d out of the story altogether。 Until then it seemed factual。I am open to It was a short read。 Kinda liked it。Won't recommend it to anyone with an agnostic/atheistic view of life, as it would leave you with a sense of why you became like that in the first place, nothing more to add to that。Didn't get much out of this book really, I wouldn't have, as I am not that much of a believer myself。 I was associating with Job when all he wanted was just answers。 But when God entered the chat, I just peace-d out of the story altogether。 Until then it seemed factual。I am open to deep discussions about this book but that is all I got from it。 。。。more

Abby Ziegler

Probably more like a 2。5- I was super excited about this and it just wasn’t what I thought it would be。 I read Job back in the spring when I was in the thick of a mental health battle and it totally resonated with me, then for one of my summer psych classes I had to read a section of this- my introduction to Jung was that he was controversial as a psychologist and as a Christian so I was intrigued。 I had a hard time with a lot of what he was writing about from a faith perspective, but it did giv Probably more like a 2。5- I was super excited about this and it just wasn’t what I thought it would be。 I read Job back in the spring when I was in the thick of a mental health battle and it totally resonated with me, then for one of my summer psych classes I had to read a section of this- my introduction to Jung was that he was controversial as a psychologist and as a Christian so I was intrigued。 I had a hard time with a lot of what he was writing about from a faith perspective, but it did give me a much better understanding of his theories。 It felt scattered at best and took longer to read than I had hoped。 Not mad I read it but I’m glad it’s done。 。。。more

David

Loses some steam in the back half, but still a delightfully provocative book。 Even there, the ideas are wild and bold, but they’re more deeply enmeshed with Jung’s larger project。 The earlier bits stand alone better and the audacity of psychoanalyzing Job’s God and tying that analysis to the Incarnation? Brilliant and strange。 Jung also drops in some beautiful little prose diamonds here and there。

Luis Cabrita

A genuinly good book, wonderfully heretical and entertaining。 I particularly liked the way he tries to "solve" the problem of the tension between free will and omniscience: yes God is omniscient and yet his omniscience is not "on" all the time [?!] - much like I have the knowledge of how to make a good pasta, but sometimes I cook as though I did not possess such knowledge。If you are into this sort of explorative theological exercises, this book is definitelly for you; if you dislike being bombar A genuinly good book, wonderfully heretical and entertaining。 I particularly liked the way he tries to "solve" the problem of the tension between free will and omniscience: yes God is omniscient and yet his omniscience is not "on" all the time [?!] - much like I have the knowledge of how to make a good pasta, but sometimes I cook as though I did not possess such knowledge。If you are into this sort of explorative theological exercises, this book is definitelly for you; if you dislike being bombarded by heresy and/or blasphemy for 100 pages then I guess you should avoid it。 It is still good though。 。。。more

M Johana Areiza

En síntesis"。。。Dios puede ser amado y debe ser temido。""Dios no quiere ser justo; Dios hace alarde de su poder, y se burla de la justicia。 Mas Job no quería comprender esto, porque consideraba que Dios era un ser moral。""Pero a Dios le irrita profundamente que los hombres piensen, y más aún que puedan pensar sobre él; esto hay que impedirlo de alguna manera。 El pensamiento del hombre se parece mucho a las cosas que su móvil hijo Satán produce a menudo de repente, y que le hieren tan desagradable En síntesis"。。。Dios puede ser amado y debe ser temido。""Dios no quiere ser justo; Dios hace alarde de su poder, y se burla de la justicia。 Mas Job no quería comprender esto, porque consideraba que Dios era un ser moral。""Pero a Dios le irrita profundamente que los hombres piensen, y más aún que puedan pensar sobre él; esto hay que impedirlo de alguna manera。 El pensamiento del hombre se parece mucho a las cosas que su móvil hijo Satán produce a menudo de repente, y que le hieren tan desagradablemente en su punto débil。 (Cuántas veces ha tenido Yavé que arrepentirse de sus irreflexivos arrebatos!" 。。。more

Aaron

Dense and overly speculative but some good insights into the Jungian perspective on religion。

Κωνσταντίνος Τσεντεμεΐδης

Πρόκειται για την γενεαλογία της εβραϊκής μυθολογίας, υπό τα πρίσμα της ψυχολογίας φυσικά, γιατί μόνο έτσι θα μπορούσε να ερμηνευθεί ένα έργο όπως οι διαθήκες。 Το βιβλίο ξεκινάει με τον Ιώβ, ο οποίος υποφέρει τα πάνδεινα, εξευτελίζεται, ταπεινώνεται πονάει και τιμωρείται από έναν θεό που ελαφρά τη καρδία καταπατά τις παρακαταθήκες και τους διακανονισμούς του με τον Δαυίδ και κατ επέκταση το αγαπητό του έθνος, γιατί βρίσκεται σε μια αρχέγονη εκστατική κατάσταση πρώιμης συνειδητότητας- σχεδόν ασυν Πρόκειται για την γενεαλογία της εβραϊκής μυθολογίας, υπό τα πρίσμα της ψυχολογίας φυσικά, γιατί μόνο έτσι θα μπορούσε να ερμηνευθεί ένα έργο όπως οι διαθήκες。 Το βιβλίο ξεκινάει με τον Ιώβ, ο οποίος υποφέρει τα πάνδεινα, εξευτελίζεται, ταπεινώνεται πονάει και τιμωρείται από έναν θεό που ελαφρά τη καρδία καταπατά τις παρακαταθήκες και τους διακανονισμούς του με τον Δαυίδ και κατ επέκταση το αγαπητό του έθνος, γιατί βρίσκεται σε μια αρχέγονη εκστατική κατάσταση πρώιμης συνειδητότητας- σχεδόν ασυνείδητης。 Έτσι ξεκινάει το στόρυ。 Ο Ιεχωβάς στο βιβλίο της δημιουργίας, είναι ο ίδιος θεός που όντας ένα commistionem oppositorum (συνδυασμός αντιθέτων), είναι τόσο απορροφημένος από την μεγαλειότητα της γέννεσης του κόσμου που έπλασε, όπου διακατέχεται από μια ακατανίκητη οίηση, κρατώντας μια στάση τουλάχιστον ναρκισσιστική (αυτοερωτική ίσως θα έλεγε ο φρόυντ), που όπως καταλαβαίνετε, δεν έχει χρόνο για διαθήκες και ηθικές αναστολές。 Η φιλαυτία του ξεπερνάει τα όρια της προπέτειας απέναντι στο δημιούργημα του, η οποία με την σειρά της φτάνει στον αμοραλισμό, και τον φόνο。 Κάτι ακριβώς σαν τον ωχρό εγκληματία του Νίτσε。 Ο Ιεχωβάς όχι μόνο δεν αναγνωρίζει ότι βρίσκεται υπό την σαγήνη του μεγάλου του γιού του σατανά, αλλά ταυτόχρονα προβάλλει την εικόνα του πάνω στον κακόμοιρο τον Ιώβ, όπως ακριβώς ο Φάουστ στον Μεφιστοφελή。 Η φυσιολογία του θεού είναι πολύ απλή。 Όσο είναι κακός, άλλο τόσο είναι και καλός。 Πέρα απ την μορφή του σατανά που ενυπάρχει και καταδυναστεύει τα χθόνια βάθη του πλάστη, υπάρχει και η μορφή της σοφίας, της θηλυκής anima του θεού, που του δίνει την διαλλακτικότητα και την παντογνωσία ενός φιλέσπαχνου δημιουργού。 Παρ όλα αυτά αρνείται να αγκαλιάσει την συγκαταβατική του φύση, γιατί όπως και να το κάνουμε η ύπαρξη μιας οποιαδήποτε ηθικής, δρα σαν τροχοπέδη στις αχαλίνωτες ορμές που ζητούν ικανοποίηση。 Τον ρόλο της γέννησης της συνείδησης παίρνει ο Ιώβ, ο οποίος χθαμαλός και κατατρεγμένος κάνει έκκληση στα στοιχεία που ο Ιεχωβάς έχει αποκόψει από πάνω του, δηλαδή την δικαιοσύνη και την καλοσύνη του。 Η σχολαστικότητα του αποδεικνύεται τελικά ικανή να πυροδοτήσει μια φλόγα αυτοκατανόησης στον Θεό, και τα σκοτεινά τεκταινόμενα στην φύση του θεού αρχίζουν να αναστέλλονται σταδιακά。 Ο Ιώβ τελικά φτάνει σε ένα ηθικό επίπεδο ανώτερο του Ιεχωβά, και αυτό έχει ως αποτέλεσμα την ανανέωση του συμβολαίου μεταξύ θεού και Ιουδαίων。 Και λογικά το καταλάβατε, τελειώνει η παλαιά, και αρχίζει η καινή διαθήκη όπως όλοι γνωρίζουμε και αγαπήσαμε。 Ο Θεός για να εξιλεωθεί θυσιάζεται για τον άνθρωπο, ανασύροντας απ το σκότος ,ξανά στο φως την ψυχή του。 Καθώς ο Χριστός ψυχορραγεί και πεθαίνει στον σταυρό του, τότε δίδεται η απάντηση στον Ιώβ。 Και τότε ξεκινάει η αρχετυπική πορεία της εξατομίκευσης του ανθρώπου προς την ολοκλήρωση。 In a nutshell, η μετάβαση από την παλαιά στην καινή σηματοδοτεί την μετουσίωση του ανθρώπου από ένα στάδιο συνειδητότητας σε ένα άλλο ανώτερο。 Αυτό που έχει ιδιαίτερο ενδιαφέρον ωστόσο είναι η περίοδος μετά την βασιλεία του Χριστού, δηλαδή κατά τα τελειώματα της καινής, την οποία διαδέχονται οι αποστολικές γραφές。 Και συγκεκριμένα η αποκάλυψη του Ιωάννη。 Στην εποχή του ιχθύος, όπου ο σατανάς είναι κλεισμένος στο κελί του και καίγεται σε έναν πύρινο λάκκο, και φαινομενικά όλα πηγαίνουν τζετ, μια ένταση χτίζεται που απελευθερώνεται με παγανιστική δυναμικότητα στο βιβλίο της αποκάλυψης。 Στα μάτια του Ιωάννη αποκαλύπτεται ξανά ένας κτηνώδης θεός, ο οποίος έχει παλινδρομήσει στην πρώιμη φύση του, και τώρα δεν υπάρχει τίποτα να αποδοθεί στον κατεργάρη Εωσφόρο, γιατί ο κακομοίρης σαπίζει στο κελί του。 Είναι αιμοδιψής, στυγνός, αδίστακτος, μα το πιο ανησυχητικό κομμάτι είναι πως αυτή είναι αμιγώς η μορφή του θεού。 Οι σκηνές που παρουσιάζει ερμηνεύονται με παγανιστική ακρίβεια, καθώς όπως μας λέει και ο Γιουνγκ, το ασυνείδητο ψάχνει πάντα την μπαλάτζα。 Τουτέστιν, όσο περισσότερο καμώνεσαι τον ενάρετο με την χριστιανική ασκητική, τόσο περισσότερο θα σιγοκοχλάζει ένας Διόνυσος η ένα ράιχ μέσα στην ψυχή σου, που ιστορικά θαρρώ πως απεικονίζει την εποχή της μετάβασης απ το μπαρούτι προς την ατομική βόμβα。 Η επέλαση του αντίχριστου φτάνει και είναι τρομακτικά εύστοχη ιστορικά。 Πραγματικά έπαθα πλάκα με το πόσο προφητικά απεικονίζει ο χριστιανισμός- που τώρα τον περιχαρακώνουμε σκωπτικά σε κάποια γωνίτσα της ψυχικής μας εξέλιξης σαν νικητές πάνω απ τον νικημένο-τα γεγονότα που συγκλόνισαν τον πλανήτη。 Τα σημάδια ήταν πάντα εκεί, απλά οι μύστες που ήξεραν τις ερμηνείες τους αφανίστηκαν από μια σωρεία δογμάτων, ξεκινώντας απ τον προτεσταντισμό, και φτάνοντας μέχρι τον απαρέγκλιτο μαθηματικό ορθολογισμό。 Και ο Γιουνγκ είναι ένας τέτοιος μύστης。 Φαντάζομαι πως αυτό που με σοκάρει περισσότερο είναι η ικανότητα της ανθρώπινης ψυχής για το κακό, αλλά και για το καλό。 Τα άκρα είναι πάντα τρομακτικά, και δυστυχώς τα κουβαλάει η ίδια μήτρα。 Μακάρι να υπήρχε τέτοιου είδους παιδεία, μακάρι να υπήρχαν τέτοιου είδους ψυχικές υποδομές για να σφυριλατήσουν τον άνθρωπο ώστε να τον κρατήσουν στο μονοπάτι της ψυχής。 Δεν εύχομαι την άρση του κακού, μόνο την κατανόηση του。 Δυστυχώς, όντως, εάν δεν κάνεις το ασυνείδητο συνειδητό, θα διαφεντεύει τη ζωή σου, κάτι που εσύ θα αποκαλείς μοίρα。。。 5 αστερια, γιατί μπορείς να βάλεις μονο 5 αστέρια。。。。 。。。more

H。A。A。 Zayour

It is essential for the reader of Jung to partially forget about his/her original view on things when going through his pages。 The reason is that his vision is vastly wider when it comes to understanding the human psyche and its form of manifestation, especially in religion。This book, unlike the other ones, felt a bit weaker。 The arguments were not also as organized and clear, I always felt that there was something missing。 I say that I have not totally understood the main thesis, and for that, It is essential for the reader of Jung to partially forget about his/her original view on things when going through his pages。 The reason is that his vision is vastly wider when it comes to understanding the human psyche and its form of manifestation, especially in religion。This book, unlike the other ones, felt a bit weaker。 The arguments were not also as organized and clear, I always felt that there was something missing。 I say that I have not totally understood the main thesis, and for that, I shall read it again。As for the other eye-opening aspects of this read, I have to once again express how mind-blown I am。 I can now see things, especially related to the Judeo-Christian traditions, that I could not see before。Jung, I believe, was a Genius of a whole new level。 。。。more

Muhamed

I started reading with great expectations。 The first chapters regarding the encounter between Job and God were fascinating, original, and revolutionary。 However, from that point onward, I found it quite disappointing。 The book has great gems of insight scattered but the overall narrative, if there is actually one, didn't impress。 I started reading with great expectations。 The first chapters regarding the encounter between Job and God were fascinating, original, and revolutionary。 However, from that point onward, I found it quite disappointing。 The book has great gems of insight scattered but the overall narrative, if there is actually one, didn't impress。 。。。more

Madi Diane

Great, detailed read。 Very short book that gets straight to the point about Jung’s thoughts on the suffering God allowed Job to endure。 Jung brings some very interesting points about how we always assume God to be only fair and loving and how that assumption can be in a sense naive。 Very interesting view of God that I’m sure a lot of believers would disagree with but all in all it is definitely a book I will read again and study alongside with my bible so God can give me revelation。 Jung spoke o Great, detailed read。 Very short book that gets straight to the point about Jung’s thoughts on the suffering God allowed Job to endure。 Jung brings some very interesting points about how we always assume God to be only fair and loving and how that assumption can be in a sense naive。 Very interesting view of God that I’m sure a lot of believers would disagree with but all in all it is definitely a book I will read again and study alongside with my bible so God can give me revelation。 Jung spoke on how God has unpredictable wrath, injustice, cruelty and touches base on his “easily persuaded” personality by giving the devil power to test jobs faith。 All in all, I do not believe God sent his wrath upon Job but allowed us to see a situation where divine intervention did not take place in a fallen world, and used a strong believer to show us what pure suffering looks like。 Great read, highly recommend。 Questions;Why did God make a bet with the devil?What event made God bless Job after elongated suffering and was the blessing intended to erase the pain already taken place?Did God send his son to die for us and allow him to suffer because of what Job went through? 。。。more

Jung Edda

Beautiful

Sami

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David

A thought-provoking dense book, full of astounding insight into Christian theology。 I was blown away by the way he penetrated the various texts in discussion to arrive at his conclusions。 It took me a while to get through the book so much of the book caused me to think deeply on the subject in a manner I had not previously。

Stosch

Brilliant。